Dave Lawler

They have occasionally done briefings with reporters on these things.

And Witkoff is sort of sets the mood a little bit, talks in depth.

broad strokes about how it's all going.

Usually, as I said, pretty optimistic.

And then Kushner is a little bit more in the details.

He, I think, has studied up to some degree on these issues.

Not to say Woodcuff hasn't, but he does, you know, he has some level of technical understanding and knowledge of the various issues which he's being tasked to negotiate.

Now that the war is over, if you want to integrate Israel with the broader Middle East, you have to find a way to help the

better.

One of the things that is valuable for Jared, even if you're negotiating with him, you can be pretty confident that this guy has the ear and has the confidence of the president, right?

You're not negotiating with the junior undersecretary for something or other where you don't know if they can deliver what they say at the table.

I think Kushner clearly has a close relationship with his father-in-law and is able to speak credibly on behalf of the president of the United States.

I think, you know, if you were going to make a case for, let's say for Kushner, you would say, you know, he is a realist in terms of what can actually be achieved.

He doesn't try to strike these broad kumbaya bargains.

In terms of Gaza, they did get a ceasefire there.

It hasn't lived up to, you know, their sort of grander ambitions so far for what the region would look like after a ceasefire was achieved.

But

uh you know he did get uh an agreement there working with widkoff the critics and in particular of of widkoff um he has been accused of sort of freelancing like going in not with a clear plan he showed up in moscow once famously without his own interpreter and had to use

an interpreter from the Kremlin, basically, which, you know, drew some eyebrow raising.

That's not typically how, you know, diplomacy is often quite by the book, right?