Dave Letele

True.

And he rang them up and he talked about, I remember ringing up my parents who had Davey and I could hear him in the background crying to come home, but I wasn't ready.

And I just, boom, it took me right back to being in that room

Begging him to come home.

Like I couldn't, I was only young.

I couldn't understand my dad's out.

Why am I not going home now?

You know, but we block out those tough times.

But when he talked about it and I fucking cried on TV, like it just hit me.

It took me straight back.

And I said to Hickey, do not use that.

Of course they used that.

But yeah, that's the only time we've sort of spoken about it.

Yeah, and it was actually him that brought that up and brought me back.

But I think, you know, to really get over it, we've got to have these conversations.

We're not really, you know, like we're up in our relationship.

I'm really close with my Australian family that I grew up with, my cousins.

But over here, you know, my sister Vicky, she passed.

And I think like when she passed, she was like the glue of our family.

And then we were sort of, she founded Grace.