Dave Letele

I was really angry, bro.

Yeah, I was really angry and I was just, you know, I was just waiting for someone to light the fuse.

And I think that's the thing with a whole lot of young Māori men out there, you know, and Pacific Island men and stuff, young boys and stuff.

You know, we just have this chip on our shoulder.

We're really angry.

And all it takes is that one fuse to be lit by the wrong person.

And I'm not saying, you know, I'm not...

downing anyone out there who decides to put a patch on their back, bro.

I'm just saying, for a lot of men, a lot of young Māori men, the options aren't there.

And I was glad that someone came along and was able to convince me just to leave momentarily, for me to get up through the dark cloud, bro, and see a little bit of sunlight.

Because it was...

Because when you're stuck there, you can't see anything else.

Nah, bro.

Nah, I couldn't see anything else.

I couldn't see any other opportunities, you know?

And it was the easiest way, you know?

I was already selling weed.

You know, I'd already taken the first step, you know?

And there were a whole lot of dudes there going, Haramai, bro.

Come over here by us, cuz.