Dave Phillips

And where are we supposed to bring him? We're not bringing him into, like, we couldn't bring him into the captive facility. I'm thinking, where are we going to go? We're not going to take him to some place where he's having to perform or be in a captive environment where they're making money off of these whales. We couldn't do that. We're going to have to build a place. And that's just a step one.

And where are we supposed to bring him? We're not bringing him into, like, we couldn't bring him into the captive facility. I'm thinking, where are we going to go? We're not going to take him to some place where he's having to perform or be in a captive environment where they're making money off of these whales. We couldn't do that. We're going to have to build a place. And that's just a step one.

How are we going to get him back to Iceland? It's a whaling nation. Are you kidding me? What, we're going to go over to Iceland and convince them that we want to bring back this whale because the world wants to save him?

How are we going to get him back to Iceland? It's a whaling nation. Are you kidding me? What, we're going to go over to Iceland and convince them that we want to bring back this whale because the world wants to save him?

Yeah, exactly. Before even, while I was down there and on the way back, I was like, I lined it out. I was way over $10 million. And I was like, at that point, I pretty much just stashed it back in my pack saying, I don't know about this. It's just, I don't, you know, we're not used to things with six figures behind it. I can see about like 10 impossible steps here.

Yeah, exactly. Before even, while I was down there and on the way back, I was like, I lined it out. I was way over $10 million. And I was like, at that point, I pretty much just stashed it back in my pack saying, I don't know about this. It's just, I don't, you know, we're not used to things with six figures behind it. I can see about like 10 impossible steps here.

You talk about trying to protect all the oceans and that those are the big issues. Those are the big, huge problems. unsolvable problems, global warming, etc. But they're so diffuse. People can't see acidification rising in the oceans. They can't see the coral reefs dying out most of the time. They're not seeing it. It's too broad to say the oceans are dying. There are no grab points.

You talk about trying to protect all the oceans and that those are the big issues. Those are the big, huge problems. unsolvable problems, global warming, etc. But they're so diffuse. People can't see acidification rising in the oceans. They can't see the coral reefs dying out most of the time. They're not seeing it. It's too broad to say the oceans are dying. There are no grab points.

There are no things to manifest what's at risk. But Whales are one of the things that is just so otherworldly, so majestic, just incredibly, amazingly intelligent, social, powerful. And that means something. It hits people in a different way than talking about the threats to the ocean ecosystems. And that's what got me over my own view that this is only one whale.

There are no things to manifest what's at risk. But Whales are one of the things that is just so otherworldly, so majestic, just incredibly, amazingly intelligent, social, powerful. And that means something. It hits people in a different way than talking about the threats to the ocean ecosystems. And that's what got me over my own view that this is only one whale.

It's like, yeah, he's one whale, but he's going to be the most famous or he could be the most famous whale in the world.

It's like, yeah, he's one whale, but he's going to be the most famous or he could be the most famous whale in the world.

It's kind of funny because it was part of the movie... They were like, how far would you go for a whale? He went as far as, you know, getting him, raising up his arm and saying some magical words and having Willie jump over the breakwater into freedom. I mean, simplistic? Yes. But that's what our narrative was too. How far could Keiko go?

It's kind of funny because it was part of the movie... They were like, how far would you go for a whale? He went as far as, you know, getting him, raising up his arm and saying some magical words and having Willie jump over the breakwater into freedom. I mean, simplistic? Yes. But that's what our narrative was too. How far could Keiko go?

A simple story, but... He was the absolute worst candidate for a project like that. Come on, Keiko, do it. Do it, Keiko. Here he goes, here he goes.

A simple story, but... He was the absolute worst candidate for a project like that. Come on, Keiko, do it. Do it, Keiko. Here he goes, here he goes.

My comment was, that's not a killer whale, that's a golden retriever.

My comment was, that's not a killer whale, that's a golden retriever.