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Dave Plummer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1147 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Windows 95 would be number two for me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I think OS 360 is going to be number one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Okay, interesting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

If you take a machine and write a COBOL program for it in 1962, jump in your time machine, go to Poughkeepsie and boot up an IBM Z17 mainframe and run it today.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And they've been doing it for however many years that is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And it's all on the business side, so we as consumers don't have much access to it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But I think it was probably as influential in the commercial side as Windows 95 was in the home side.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And then probably Linux would be number three for me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I put Linux as bigger than Unix, which doesn't work because you can't have one without the other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But the impact of Unix, BSD, and so forth is largely in the academic space.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

It's by programmers for programmers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah, and it's penetration on the server side of things now is, I don't know if it's equivalent to what System360 achieved, but it's almost ubiquitous.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Well, your day starts coming in, and you've got to download the address book, which is Microsoft has between 10,000 and 15,000 employees at this point, and we're all on MS Mail.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

We're just getting off of the PDP-11 called Miss Piggy, which we're on WhizMail.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

and we're running MS Mail.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But MS Mail has a fixed address book that every user must download every morning.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And when there's 10,000 people downloading 10,000 people, it gets pretty messy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And I think we're on 10 megabit networking at the time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

So your first hour is downloading the address book, which was always frustrating.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But you'd use that time to look at the crashes that would have happened overnight from a process we called stress, which is NNT.