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Dave Plummer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1147 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

The other one was, in those days, when somebody bought a piece of software, even if they bought it online and got a download, they fully expected there would be media showing up at their house.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

So in the year 2001, which was 2001, 2003, we're talking about, if you bought software online,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

there was an expectation that a disk would show up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And so we made that the default was to fulfill by disk and it was 395 or 495 extra.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And it was very obvious, but it was a checkbox and it was turned on to ship the disk to your house.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Because we found if we didn't do that, we got all these calls, people would wait, we'd order two weeks later, call, where's my disk?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And we'd look, we didn't order a disk.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Well, cancel it all, I don't want it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

because I'm not waiting for it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And so we got a lot of returns, and we didn't include the disk, and so we decided to include the disk.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But that is a priority violation of negative affirmation billing in Washington State, because you're giving them a default higher purchase price.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah, and what you don't want is you don't want them to have to do it or buy it or do something to get rid of it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah, the one that really throws me is the use recommended settings.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

So I just did a Windows upgrade, I went through the steps, and I'm going through this new dialog or wizard, and use recommended settings.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Sounds like the thing you should do, but I'm pretty sure that resets you to using the Edge browser and all this other stuff.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

So yeah, recommended by them, but not recommended for me, and that's the difficulty.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Well, you don't want your operating system to be an adversary, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And sometimes Windows can feel adversarial.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Like it doesn't have your best interests at heart.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And that bugs me to a certain extent.