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Dave Plummer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1147 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Or especially if it does work the first time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I never trust that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah, I've done a ton of it for the Python side because I'm not great with Python and I'm kind of new to it, so...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I found it very helpful because I've learned a lot from watching the code that it generates.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

If I don't know how to do something, because if I write Python from scratch, it's going to be about four times as long as what the AI can crank out because Python can be pretty terse if you're good at it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah, it's all pretty self-explanatory once you see it, but creating it from a whole cloth is a little different.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Oh, and to read it and to know what to tell it to do next and all that, yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I don't think you can vibe code yourself if you're just new and haven't coded, but if you're a good programmer, AI can make you incredibly powerful.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

I think, I don't want to say prompt engineer, but I think it's going to be something like that in the sense that if you're an architect building a bridge, at some point, guys were down there welding beams together, but now you're dragging things around in AutoCAD and assembling from big free form sections.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

And I assume that's what programming will be like.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

You won't be in there throwing individual lines of code around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

You'll be moving components and interfaces around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

and describing to the AI what those interactions should be and letting it build the components.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But I think we're still quite a ways from it being able to whole cloth generate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

You can't say, give me a Linux kernel that's compatible with Linux.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

One day we'll be able to and it'll crank it out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

But we're not there yet.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#479 โ€“ Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Yeah, I kind of came up at a really fortunate time, I think, because I had to come up with the technology over the course of 30 or 40 years.