Dave Rosenthal

Good stuff. Okay, good meta conversation on release cadence. I think I agree with all your points. You have to find that sweet spot and as frequent as you can be reliable without being too frequent. And that probably varies per project. And I'm happy that you guys are happy with once a year. Certainly better than what y'all were doing before. That's very cool.

Let's go back to Python 3.13, because Pablo, at the beginning you mentioned it's officially iOS compatible or something. What does this mean? You can just fire up Python on your iPhone?

Let's go back to Python 3.13, because Pablo, at the beginning you mentioned it's officially iOS compatible or something. What does this mean? You can just fire up Python on your iPhone?

That definitely wasn't what I was thinking, but it makes a ton of sense. I think it's going to make some people very excited.

That definitely wasn't what I was thinking, but it makes a ton of sense. I think it's going to make some people very excited.

Write some Python code and deploy an app based on it. Like, build an app in Python.

Write some Python code and deploy an app based on it. Like, build an app in Python.

Well, now you have me thinking about the future. Let's close on this wish list. Imagine that the three of us are sitting down next September and talking about 314. What do you want us to be talking about? What do you hope we're talking about going into 314, each of you?

Well, now you have me thinking about the future. Let's close on this wish list. Imagine that the three of us are sitting down next September and talking about 314. What do you want us to be talking about? What do you hope we're talking about going into 314, each of you?

Yeah, that's awesome. I was reading about your improved error messages, and I think that's the kind of thing that has to be a sustained effort over time. It's like one of those paper cuts kind of things where it's like we're just going to continue to polish this thing. And so a great effort. I'm glad that you struck that up.

Yeah, that's awesome. I was reading about your improved error messages, and I think that's the kind of thing that has to be a sustained effort over time. It's like one of those paper cuts kind of things where it's like we're just going to continue to polish this thing. And so a great effort. I'm glad that you struck that up.

Well, the podcast Core.py, if you are a super Python nerd and want to nerd out with these two about internals. on a more frequent basis, then we'll cover it here on The Change Log, which sounds like it's going to be about once a year. I'd love to have you guys back next September and be talking about 314.

Well, the podcast Core.py, if you are a super Python nerd and want to nerd out with these two about internals. on a more frequent basis, then we'll cover it here on The Change Log, which sounds like it's going to be about once a year. I'd love to have you guys back next September and be talking about 314.

Hopefully, all of our wishes will have come to fruition and we'll have people out there free birding it. I mean, free threading it. Q Leonard Skinner here. And enjoying the new Python with no gill and the performance improvements that are possible there. Lots of potential. I'm certainly looking forward to it. Guys, thanks so much for coming on the show this week. Thanks for having us.

Hopefully, all of our wishes will have come to fruition and we'll have people out there free birding it. I mean, free threading it. Q Leonard Skinner here. And enjoying the new Python with no gill and the performance improvements that are possible there. Lots of potential. I'm certainly looking forward to it. Guys, thanks so much for coming on the show this week. Thanks for having us.

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