Dave Smith

Is there really a meaningful difference between prisoners and hostages?

You know, Hamas also captured some IDF guys, but we still look at them as hostages and we still look at some eight-year-old Palestinian as a prisoner.

Dude, Israel's sitting on thousands and thousands of Palestinians.

Over the years, thousands and thousands and thousands of Palestinians who did not get a fair trial.

Some of them didn't even get military tribunals, by the way.

Thousands of them got nothing.

Just held without charges, without a trial, nothing.

So yes, actually, they do do that.

They do that as well.

that gather in, what do you say, noncombatants and hostages, then gather in crowds of thousands, bang for their blood.

Yes, they also do that.

I don't know.

Go look at public opinion polls in Israel.

Yeah, there's huge support for what they do to the Palestinians.

So anyway, I don't know, Rob, anything you want to add to this?

But it just goes through a whole list that if Israel does exactly my caricature of what the other side is doing, then I'd hate them.

The thing is, they do most of this.

Yeah, agreed.

All right.

The problem in the Middle East is not and has never been the existence of the state of Israel.