Dave Smith

There could have been one 80 years ago.

But if the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be a genocide.

This was obviously true on October 7th.

And for anyone who's been paying attention, it has been true on every other day since the founding of the state of Israel.

Look, all I can say is this.

I've done a lot of these debates, a lot of debates on Israel-Palestine.

I think I have a pretty good record in those debates, but that's for the audience to decide.

I've had tons of people come at me with this garbage.

There's a reason why you can't bring this in a debate against a competent debater, because it's just this is just the this is pure political talking points just totally removed from the reality of the situation.

And so, look, let's well.

He yada yadas over the history.

The history ain't important.

That says the true intellectual history isn't important.

And then he says, well, what is important is the mindset of each side of this conflict and what they really want, what they're really willing to die for, what they really care about.

But then of course, it's just a buried assumption in there that the Israelis all just want everything good and noble.

And that's, you know, and we're not to judge them based on their actions.

We're not like,

What if I were to say the Israelis want to kill 100,000 Palestinians?

You say, no, they don't.

They don't want to do that.