Dave Smith

And I got to say, there's a real... There's this crazy goddamn dynamic of like where America... Like the rough, broad strokes deal of America for many years, what kind of built modern America as we know it, is that like European refugees could escape tyranny and then come over here and hope for like a better life with more opportunity and more liberty.

And somehow this idea got...

converted into oh you you can come to america and then convince us to go to war with the country that you're from to you know what i mean like uh free your liberate your people over there like the deal was always like no we were just we were supposed to try to have some liberty over here we're

We're not doing that great at that.

But I do think there's this, you know, Sager and Jetty, who's fantastic.

I love that guy.

Good friend.

He's been making this point a lot on breaking points.

And I think it's a really like astute one where there's this really like unholy alliance between the military industrial complex and then their war hawks and then like diaspora people.

you know, and there's this real problem.

You know, it just, if you've read enough about like just the terror wars, you know, whether it's Chalabi or in this case, if it's the, the Shaw's son or whatever, where you, or just the people I'm arguing with on Pierce Morgan, some Iranian girl, who's talking about Iran, who lives in Brooklyn.

You know what I mean?

Who's lived there her whole life.

These are the most disconnected people from Iran.

They don't like it's they, they, um,

Like they speak for a sliver of the population or what they told their kids about Iran.

You know what I mean?

And then they have this view.

And I just learned a long time ago to like never trust any of that shit, man.

Like because for a few different reasons.