Dave Smith

Democracy is all a big fucking illusion.

They had a study.

What was it?

It was in Princeton, I think, had that study published.

where they concluded that we are an oligarchy because they literally, they like scientific, it was a peer reviewed study.

They scientifically went through it and they go, the way the public feels about policy has no impact on policy.

It's just not, it doesn't matter.

Obama says, we're going to close Guantanamo Bay.

You go, I think I'll vote for that guy who's going to close Guantanamo Bay.

Doesn't, doesn't, next up is, well, do you want Mitt Romney?

Okay.

So that's your only choice.

There's no choice in this matter.

But so then you also have the real dynamic here that like,

even if it's not a majority who supports the ayatollah 92 million people in a country what percentage do if it's 10 that's a healthy insurgency you got on your hands if the regime falls or people who are going to fight back before the regime falls and so these well you were making i'm sorry because i don't think i addressed this point earlier that you asked me about about the the popular opinion there that yes it's true that you have liberals in the big cities

Yeah, no, that's that's absolutely right.

And of course, there's all types.

I mean, my you know, I my understanding of Chalabi was like from what I've read about it is my the read I got on him was essentially that he was just a con man.

Like, I don't you know what I mean?

Like he was he got like an error.