Dave Smith

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I'm all about trying to get him to do that.

Yeah.

And I would just say to, you know, to libertarians, to people who, you know, with whatever is libertarians at the moment, I kind of think are like stronger than we've ever been in terms of having like a cultural presence in the national conversation.

And there is a certain degree of like, I think that.

in the in the online world right now particularly when it comes to like foreign policy government corruption things like that you're almost like you kind of have to come through a lot of these ideas at this point whereas it used to be that people were able to just ignore them

And we have, you know, just we have more figures with big shows doing big things than we've ever had before.

Obviously, the state of the party is a bit of a mess.

And, you know, but we've got there's the Free State Project in New Hampshire, which has been able to do a bunch of things.

really honestly been very incredibly successful so far.

There's been major like homeschooling movements.

We've got huge podcasts that a lot of people listen to.

We've, we've had local wins with things like defend the guard and that, you know, like we,

But literally, I think almost every libertarian right now would recognize that literally, and I mean, with all of those things that I just mentioned, so much of what we have, not saying everything, but so much of what we have is because Ron Paul ran for president twice.

Like, this is just a fact that, and Rob, you know this very well, right?

If you go into...

Almost any libertarian thing.

Now, this is a little bit not a completely honest sample survey.