Dave Smith

You're going to create this amount of violence.

Who the hell is going to wrestle power in that environment?

Gandhi?

What are the odds that the person who comes away, who the people end up rallying around, is the calmer, rational guy?

What are the odds of that?

It's so unlikely.

Even like your crystal ball line, not to be confused with crystal ball of breaking points.

I mentioned Sager a second ago.

It's like, yeah, dude, you launch a war of choice, a war of aggression.

Not only do you not have a crystal ball, you're openly admitting you don't even have a plan.

You don't even have like a, it's not even like they're going, this is a long shot, but here's our plan.

Yeah.

what i mean they have nothing they're all on record we just have nothing i mean this is les i gotta wrap up here scott but um this this is to me and and look i'm i'm like with you when people say that if they go what results would make you say oh this worked out like

I don't know if it worked out.

I'd acknowledge that it worked out.

I don't know if I, if, if literally they went in there and the people rose up and a reasonable, you know, liberal.

And I mean, this in the classical sense of the word, like a reasonable, somebody who, you know, reasonable rose up and things were just much better.

And the region was calmed down.

I'd go,

Ah, shit, you know, you launched seven wars of choice.