Dave Smith

Um, and so it was like around the time when Ron Paul had just retired from Congress and it looked like Rand was going to run for president.

And in some of the polls, he was like right at the top and he was very popular.

And like, they were like, Oh, this might be like a real thing.

And so of course they were coming to do a hit piece on, you know, his associations.

And so, uh,

And they they approached Walter Block, Tom Woods and Lou Rockwell.

And so Tom Woods, he said, OK, he was like, I know exactly what you're going to do here, but I'm going to sit down and he goes, I'm going to give like the like the perfect answer to everything.

So there's no way you can try to smear me off this.

And then Lou Rockwell.

uh, said this is private property and you're part of the regime, please leave or I'm calling the cops.

Um, and then Walter Block was just like, absolutely, let's do an interview.

This is fun.

And he just started getting into libertarianism with them.

And he goes, uh, um, he, they, they were, he was trying to explain libertarianism to them.

And he goes, listen, man, like the libertarian view is that it's all about like voluntarism versus coercion.

Like, why was slavery so immoral?

Well, because they were forced to be there.

If they weren't forced, then I don't know.

It's picking cotton and singing songs like libertarians have no problem with it if it's not if they weren't forced to be there.

And literally, the New York Times didn't run anything of Tom Woods.