Dave Smith

Right.

The guy who's got the truth on his side refuses to debate is what we're supposed to believe here.

And what is the truth that he's got on his side?

History doesn't count.

Like I've got some ideas as to why Israel might be losing this propaganda war on social media, because just sitting here and saying, nah, it's not happening.

No one's starving.

It's not a genocide.

I mean, Rob, hasn't everyone who's paying attention seen, like literally I'm talking to you, I'm talking to Natalie, I'm talking to everyone listening to this.

Haven't you seen enough horrific images out of Gaza that like you really don't need to be convinced anymore that something really horrible is happening there?

like this is what you got no no no there there was no starvation yes they they there were some kids who starved to death but they had other medical conditions and no it doesn't constitute a genocide it was just killing tens of thousands of kids no further debate no talking about history that's all i don't know rob i can't believe this hasn't won you the argument sam harris final word to you rob

It really is.

I'm sorry.

I just, I do.

I have, I have no respect for this stuff.

I find Sam Harris to be a contemptible person and I'm sorry, but like,

People, listen, people notice this stuff.

You know, Sam Harris is really, he's smeared me quite a bit and called me every name under the book.

Despite all that, despite the fact that I think Sam Harris is guilty of blood libel, or I think he's, you know, pushing a bunch of like really horrible, I would accuse him of moral lunacy.

I'm still willing to have the debate with him.

I'll do it tomorrow.