Dave Smith

His book Provoked about the war in Ukraine is the best book written on the subject.

Yeah.

I mean, he's the, he is the, he has been such an incredible resource.

Like he's a good, great friend of mine.

One of my closest friends, but he's also just been, he's like my mentor in the foreign policy stuff.

And he's just so great because he's like, he's such a tool because he's got a photographic memory.

So like I can literally just call him at any point and you'll just be like,

When Iran invaded Iraq in 1980, in 1982, weren't they fighting here?

And then he'll just be like, yeah, they were fighting here and here.

And then this guy has all their names and everything.

It's really incredible.

But so he was debating Wesley Clark on Piers Morgan's show.

Talk about the new media world that we live in and how crazy it is now that Scott Horton gets to square off with the four star general and Wesley Clark.

who, you know, look, I have my issues with him, but he did give us that great admission about the seven countries in five years, so I'll always kind of be grateful to him.

Now he tries to walk that back, but we all heard what you said.

But he goes at one point talking about, I believe it was Gaza, if I'm getting this correct, and he said this was while it was still intensely going on, and he goes, but if we just leave now, then Hamas gets to say they won.

And you're like, sir,

General, that's your opinion on war?

But that's a recipe to be in forever war always.

We can't ever leave anywhere.