Dave Smith

Okay.

But there's still a vast difference between the morality of Israel and these other states.

We're like, okay.

But yeah, that assertion actually falls apart when given some pushback.

So, yeah, this is why you won't debate it.

I don't know.

Any thoughts, Rob, or should I keep reading?

Yeah, let's keep reading.

All right, next, a simple heuristic.

As I suggested in at least one community thread already, if my intransigence on these matters mystifies you, it might help to understand that for whatever reason, I think militant Islam is 10 times worse than you think it is.

When I talk about, quote, jihadists and their various groups, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, the Islamic State, the IRGC, et cetera, I'm talking about people who I consider to be worse than Nazis.

Jihadists being essentially Nazis who are certain of paradise.

My view about the conflict in the Middle East will not fundamentally change unless my critics produce evidence that Israel has become as evil as her enemies.

Okay.

Well, there's lots of evidence that Israel has become as bad as her enemies, even worse.

Again, it's just a ridiculous non-argument.

I mean, this is like the antithesis of intellectualism to just say, I refuse to debate a thing because my mind won't be changed.

All right.

Well, most of the time, and when I say most of the time, I mean 99.99999% of the time, debaters' opinions aren't changed through debate.

The point of the debate isn't really like, like no one's going, no one in your own community here is challenging you to grow a pair and step up and debate someone because they think this is how we change your mind.