Dave Weigel

And I'm coming up with a thing you can do, too, is I came up with this idea because I've been doing this listening tour of people with normal jobs.

And I think this would improve their lives.

versus, hey, we did a focus group.

That's a pretty big difference that might land you in the same place, but one of them is just really powerful to watch.

Yeah, or I think it's Andy Ogles in the House.

There's a couple of Republicans who are going to try stunty legislation to deport him or Randy Fine, I think, has a version of this.

Anytime you're doing that.

So there's a thermostatic shift.

People elect Trump and they say, oh, wait, he's against immigration in a way that I don't like.

I wasn't paying enough attention.

Do we get back to the mood of 2017 where every Democrat was confidently saying we need more refugees in the country?

I don't think we get there.

But the idea that

The idea that some immigrants should be allowed in the country and improve it when they're here is pretty popular outside of Stephen Miller's office in the White House.

This has gone very far in a nativist direction that I think Mamdani is comfortable rebutting because, yes, there are Republicans who say, I would like to remove people like him from the country.

And there are there are people who say he doesn't seem to be harming anybody.

I remember when I was in New York early in the year checking in on the Mamdani race, because I met him when he was running for his assembly seat and then covered DSA, et cetera.

One thing I was asking his campaign is like, hey, not that long ago, there was the ground zero mosque in New York.

And there was a huge backlash that Republicans used around the country, the idea of building a Muslim center near the old World Trade Center site.

And the campaign was –