Dave Wood

And so you believe it's true.

It's almost like you're not living in reality anymore.

You're living in a reality based on your repeated thoughts and beliefs.

I mean, if you can't –

Yeah, if you don't have the skill or the understanding to realize that, then you get stuck in a silo, right?

It's like, well, because we're being fed information at the moment that everything's bad, you know, or in the economy.

And so I think it's the same, bro.

I think that there is like times are difficult, but there is also so many opportunities out there.

Like there's so many opportunities.

And I think we're particularly lucky in New Zealand because we have quite a bit of autonomy and we can go and, yeah, we can pivot adapt and we can go and, I mean, there is an abundance out there.

You can go and find something.

It may not be, right now it may not be exactly what you want to do, but, you know, there are opportunities out there.

Sometimes when I'm talking about that stuff, I'm like,

It's almost like I know what I want to say, but I'm like, fuck, people are going to articulate this like, this motherfucker hasn't just lost his job or like, you know what I mean?

Yeah, well, my background is definitely not in running a business, which is what I'm doing now.

I'm having to learn about all that.

But my background is growing up out at Piha Beach, man, and like...

Surfing is really my passion.

I love being in the ocean.

I first started surfing when I was like five years old, and I'd surf.