David A. Graham

You know, they have been continuing to push some of these things.

The Washington Post just obtained very recently a big document that Heritage put out on marriage and family.

And these get at the kind of most deeply felt kind of Christian nationalist ideas in Project 2025.

And even as they've been successful on some of these other things, they still want to see their own core priorities happening more than they have.

I think the only thing that really unites the conservative movement right now is Donald Trump.

And even then, we can see some of that looking shakier than it has for quite some time.

Trump has been able to hold all of these things together.

And you see even in Project 2025, these kind of schisms over, you know, everything from how best to provide childcare in order to encourage higher birth rates to whether or not there should be tariffs.

And, you know, they're trying to bring together these people from across a lot of the right.

And it worked in this context, and it works as long as Trump is there.

If you look at somebody like J.D.

Vance, I think he fits the Project 2025 policy mindset better than Trump does.

Trump is not particularly devout.

Vance is a very serious conservative Catholic.

I think he thinks about policy more than Trump does.

But I don't know if somebody like Vance can hold the coalition together like Trump has.

I think it's a little bit of a free-for-all as you see these groups, whether it is Heritage and the Project 225 group or Mike Pence's group, kind of vying to see who can be the next power player in the next stage or whenever Trump exits the scene.

I would say first that I'm not convinced that Americans were voting for that, even though the administration acted that way.

Project 2025 was wildly unpopular.

People knew about it, which is surprising for this kind of dry plan and hated it.