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David Allison

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The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And I think the new information yield, and I underline that phrase, new information, is often very low.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If somebody else comes out with a new study tomorrow and says, we did another one and it was a million subjects and we measured the food intake as carefully as we can with self-report in this population.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We had a couple of biomarkers and there's something interesting about this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And here's what we showed with protein intake.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

and longevity.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I don't care which directions.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

You showed greater longevity, you showed lesser longevity.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I already knew it was a question.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

You haven't answered the question for me.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

It gave me a little thing to scratch my head about maybe, but it didn't really move the needle.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I think the most important thing that I want to say is sort of maybe a little bit of a weird kind of left turn on this, but I think the greatest limit or problem with the nutrition epidemiology in a context like we're discussing now or in this exact context of protein consumption and things like longevity and long-term major health

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

is the opportunity cost.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

It's that we're spending the money and often a non-trivial amount of money.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

These big epidemiology studies can be very expensive and we're not spending it therefore on the big randomized, well-done, controlled clinical trials.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

That's, I think, the biggest problem.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If you said to me, well, we did some epidemiology, there's something we can glean and it's interesting and fun and there was no cost.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Okay.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

But if you say, we did that, but we could have done one really good or maybe 10 medium size randomized controlled trials for that, that was a big loss.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Now, in and of themselves, if we just stick to the epidemiology, you and many others frequently and correctly point out the issue of confounding.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We all say correlation is not necessarily causation.