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David Allison

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The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

So you could tell them not to drink sugar-sweetened beverages.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

You could tell them not to eat fettuccine Alfredo because it's a heart attack on a plate.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

All these things have a small effect for a while and usually not so much for a long term.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

But it might help.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We need to study that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

That says nothing, however, about the effects of the food per se.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If you said, no, David, my goal is to tell people about the foods they should eat if they actually ate them, what the effects would be.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Or my goal is to determine the effects of foods.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Then I would go back to a statement from a wonderful book

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

called A Fly in the Ointment, by someone named Joe Schwartz.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And Dr. Schwartz, who's a food scientist, says something like, there is a motto, repeat after me, the effect of substances in the body depends on their molecular structure, not their ancestry.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

So if you give me this molecule, or a collection of them, to eat, and you extracted that molecule from

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

some berry, and it's natural, or you synthesize that molecule in a laboratory, but in the end, it's the same molecule.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We agree, I mean, you could try to synthesize, it might have some slight difference, but let's assume it's literally the same molecule, and it's the same structure.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

You give it to me in liquid form, in liquid form, or gaseous form, or whatever it is.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If you say these are going to have different effects because of where they came from, seems to me we're in homeopathy now.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

This makes no sense.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I think it's a mixture of deliberate marketing shenanigans, but it's also the marketing of ideas, not just food products, by people with particular philosophical and other bents who are anywhere from the interest to make themselves famous, to push a philosophical thing, to push an anti-industry thing.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

whatever it is.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

But yes, I agree with that.