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David Allison

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The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And there's no point in discussing anything else.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

think the answer is things will get better.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Whether it's a step function or not, I'm not so sure.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I want to expand or add to the branch you've thrown in and add a parallel branch, which is, I think there are two reasons why nutrition science is so fraught.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

One you've pointed out is the methodologic challenge.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Can we collect the kind of data we really want with the kind of methods we really want?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

The other part is the social aspect, which you've hinted at until we've gotten to this point, which is why is it so emotional?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Why do people attack each other?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Why do people go beyond the data?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And I think I see that in any area, the more that area of inquiry is related to

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

economics, religion, social values, personal experiences, the more you get the emotion and the deviation from logic and so on.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And we see it in whatever people study, child rearing, same-sex marriage, anything that has that emotional valence involved.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

that everyday experience and so on leads to more bringing in of non-scientific points of view.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

So I think that's something we have very strongly.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And then I think the other we have is the methodologic challenge of collecting the data.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I see benefits on both fronts, but I think both will be slow.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I don't think in many cases it's going to be a simple thing of if we could just fix that, if we could just figure out how to measure food intake and free living people well, and we're on the horizon, then everything will be okay.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

That's important.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I hope we do figure out how to measure food intake well and free living people, but that alone will not be a solution, a sufficient solution.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

What I think on the front of the emotional piece is it's going to come slow.