David Boree

Hey everyone, Robert here. Just a little additional context. As best as I think anyone can tell, if you're curious about where the name Ziz came from, there's another piece of serial released online fiction that's not like a rationalist story, but it's very popular with rationalists. It's called Worm.

Ziz is a character in that that's effectively like an angel like being who can like manipulate the future, usually in order to do very bad things. Anyway, that's where the name comes from. So smart kid, really good with computers, kind of weird and, you know, embraces being unapologetically weird at a certain point in her childhood. Hey, everybody. Robert here.

Ziz is a character in that that's effectively like an angel like being who can like manipulate the future, usually in order to do very bad things. Anyway, that's where the name comes from. So smart kid, really good with computers, kind of weird and, you know, embraces being unapologetically weird at a certain point in her childhood. Hey, everybody. Robert here.

Ziz is a character in that that's effectively like an angel like being who can like manipulate the future, usually in order to do very bad things. Anyway, that's where the name comes from. So smart kid, really good with computers, kind of weird and, you know, embraces being unapologetically weird at a certain point in her childhood. Hey, everybody. Robert here.

Did not have this piece of information when I first put the episode together, but I came across a quote in an article from the Boston Globe that provides additional context on Ziz's childhood quote.

Did not have this piece of information when I first put the episode together, but I came across a quote in an article from the Boston Globe that provides additional context on Ziz's childhood quote.

Did not have this piece of information when I first put the episode together, but I came across a quote in an article from the Boston Globe that provides additional context on Ziz's childhood quote.

In middle school, the teen was among a group of students who managed to infiltrate the school district's payroll system and award huge paychecks to teachers they admired while slashing the salaries of those they despised, according to one teacher. Ziz, the teacher said, struggled to regulate strong emotions, often erupting in tantrums.

In middle school, the teen was among a group of students who managed to infiltrate the school district's payroll system and award huge paychecks to teachers they admired while slashing the salaries of those they despised, according to one teacher. Ziz, the teacher said, struggled to regulate strong emotions, often erupting in tantrums.

In middle school, the teen was among a group of students who managed to infiltrate the school district's payroll system and award huge paychecks to teachers they admired while slashing the salaries of those they despised, according to one teacher. Ziz, the teacher said, struggled to regulate strong emotions, often erupting in tantrums.

I wish I'd had this when David was on, but definitely sets up some of the things that are coming. She goes to the U of Alaska for her undergraduate degree in computer engineering. In February of 2009, which is when Alicia Yudkowsky started Less Wrong, Ziz starts kind of getting drawn into some of the people who are around this growing subculture, right? And she's drawn in initially by veganism.

I wish I'd had this when David was on, but definitely sets up some of the things that are coming. She goes to the U of Alaska for her undergraduate degree in computer engineering. In February of 2009, which is when Alicia Yudkowsky started Less Wrong, Ziz starts kind of getting drawn into some of the people who are around this growing subculture, right? And she's drawn in initially by veganism.

I wish I'd had this when David was on, but definitely sets up some of the things that are coming. She goes to the U of Alaska for her undergraduate degree in computer engineering. In February of 2009, which is when Alicia Yudkowsky started Less Wrong, Ziz starts kind of getting drawn into some of the people who are around this growing subculture, right? And she's drawn in initially by veganism.

So Ziz becomes a vegan at a fairly young age. Her family are not vegans, and she's obsessed with the concept of animal sentience, right? Of the fact that like animals are thinking and feeling beings just like human beings.

So Ziz becomes a vegan at a fairly young age. Her family are not vegans, and she's obsessed with the concept of animal sentience, right? Of the fact that like animals are thinking and feeling beings just like human beings.

So Ziz becomes a vegan at a fairly young age. Her family are not vegans, and she's obsessed with the concept of animal sentience, right? Of the fact that like animals are thinking and feeling beings just like human beings.

And a lot of this is based in her interest in kind of foundational rationalist – a lot of this is based in her interest of a foundational rationalist and EA figure, a guy named Brian Tomasek. Brian is a writer and a software engineer as well as an animal rights activist. And as a thinker, he's what you'd call a long-termist, right, which is – pretty tied to the EA guys.

And a lot of this is based in her interest in kind of foundational rationalist – a lot of this is based in her interest of a foundational rationalist and EA figure, a guy named Brian Tomasek. Brian is a writer and a software engineer as well as an animal rights activist. And as a thinker, he's what you'd call a long-termist, right, which is – pretty tied to the EA guys.

And a lot of this is based in her interest in kind of foundational rationalist – a lot of this is based in her interest of a foundational rationalist and EA figure, a guy named Brian Tomasek. Brian is a writer and a software engineer as well as an animal rights activist. And as a thinker, he's what you'd call a long-termist, right, which is – pretty tied to the EA guys.

These are all the same people using different words to describe the aspects of what they believe. His organization is the Center on Long-Term Risk, which is a think tank he establishes that's at the ground floor of these effective altruism discussions. The goal for the Center of Long-Term Risk is to find ways to reduce suffering on a long timeline.