David Boree
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And she really wants to convert this whole community to veganism in order to ensure that the singleton is as focused on insect and animal welfare as human welfare. And Tomasik does care about animal rights, but he disagrees with her because he's like, no, what matters is maximizing the reduction of suffering.
And she really wants to convert this whole community to veganism in order to ensure that the singleton is as focused on insect and animal welfare as human welfare. And Tomasik does care about animal rights, but he disagrees with her because he's like, no, what matters is maximizing the reduction of suffering.
And she really wants to convert this whole community to veganism in order to ensure that the singleton is as focused on insect and animal welfare as human welfare. And Tomasik does care about animal rights, but he disagrees with her because he's like, no, what matters is maximizing the reduction of suffering.
And like a good singleton will solve climate change and shit, which will be better for the animals. And if we focus on trying to convert everybody in this, the rationalist space to veganism, it's going to stop us from accomplishing these bigger goals, right? This is shattering to Ziz, right? She decides that he doesn't, Thomas doesn't care about good things.
And like a good singleton will solve climate change and shit, which will be better for the animals. And if we focus on trying to convert everybody in this, the rationalist space to veganism, it's going to stop us from accomplishing these bigger goals, right? This is shattering to Ziz, right? She decides that he doesn't, Thomas doesn't care about good things.
And like a good singleton will solve climate change and shit, which will be better for the animals. And if we focus on trying to convert everybody in this, the rationalist space to veganism, it's going to stop us from accomplishing these bigger goals, right? This is shattering to Ziz, right? She decides that he doesn't, Thomas doesn't care about good things.
And she decides that she's basically alone in her values.
And she decides that she's basically alone in her values.
And she decides that she's basically alone in her values.
That sounds like we're on our way. She first considers embracing what she calls negative utilitarianism. And this is an example of the fact that from the jump, this is a young woman who's not well, right? Because her hero is like, I don't know if veganism is necessarily the priority we have to embrace right now. Her immediate goal is to jump to, well, maybe what I should do
That sounds like we're on our way. She first considers embracing what she calls negative utilitarianism. And this is an example of the fact that from the jump, this is a young woman who's not well, right? Because her hero is like, I don't know if veganism is necessarily the priority we have to embrace right now. Her immediate goal is to jump to, well, maybe what I should do
That sounds like we're on our way. She first considers embracing what she calls negative utilitarianism. And this is an example of the fact that from the jump, this is a young woman who's not well, right? Because her hero is like, I don't know if veganism is necessarily the priority we have to embrace right now. Her immediate goal is to jump to, well, maybe what I should do
is optimize myself to cause as much harm to humanity and, quote, destroy the world to prevent it from becoming hell for mostly everyone. So that's a jump, you know? That's not somebody who's doing well, who you think is healthy, right?
is optimize myself to cause as much harm to humanity and, quote, destroy the world to prevent it from becoming hell for mostly everyone. So that's a jump, you know? That's not somebody who's doing well, who you think is healthy, right?
is optimize myself to cause as much harm to humanity and, quote, destroy the world to prevent it from becoming hell for mostly everyone. So that's a jump, you know? That's not somebody who's doing well, who you think is healthy, right?
Uh-huh. So Ziz does ultimately decide she should still work to bring about a nice AI, even though that necessitates working with people she describes as flesh-eating monsters who had created hell on earth for far more people than those they had helped. That's everybody who eats meat. Okay. Yes, yes. And it's ironic- It's a large group.
Uh-huh. So Ziz does ultimately decide she should still work to bring about a nice AI, even though that necessitates working with people she describes as flesh-eating monsters who had created hell on earth for far more people than those they had helped. That's everybody who eats meat. Okay. Yes, yes. And it's ironic- It's a large group.
Uh-huh. So Ziz does ultimately decide she should still work to bring about a nice AI, even though that necessitates working with people she describes as flesh-eating monsters who had created hell on earth for far more people than those they had helped. That's everybody who eats meat. Okay. Yes, yes. And it's ironic- It's a large group.
It's ironic because if she really wants to be in the tech industry, she's trying to get in all these people who are in the tech industry, that's a pretty good description of a lot of the tech industry. Yeah. They are in fact flesh eating monsters who have created hell on earth for more people than they've helped. But she means that for like, I don't know, your aunt who has a hamburger once a week.
It's ironic because if she really wants to be in the tech industry, she's trying to get in all these people who are in the tech industry, that's a pretty good description of a lot of the tech industry. Yeah. They are in fact flesh eating monsters who have created hell on earth for more people than they've helped. But she means that for like, I don't know, your aunt who has a hamburger once a week.