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David Boree

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3144 total appearances

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah, and it is deeply... I've read a lot of her writing. It is deeply hard to understand pieces of it here.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

She is for sure at war with herself. Now... Ziz is at this point attending rationalist events by the bay, and a lot of the people at those events are older, more influential men, some of whom are influential in the tech industry, all of whom have a lot more money than her.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

She is for sure at war with herself. Now... Ziz is at this point attending rationalist events by the bay, and a lot of the people at those events are older, more influential men, some of whom are influential in the tech industry, all of whom have a lot more money than her.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

She is for sure at war with herself. Now... Ziz is at this point attending rationalist events by the bay, and a lot of the people at those events are older, more influential men, some of whom are influential in the tech industry, all of whom have a lot more money than her.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And some of these people are members of an organization called CIFAR, the Center for Applied Rationality, which is a nonprofit founded to help people get better at pursuing their goals. It's a self-help company, right? It runs self-help seminars. This is the same as like a Tony Robbins thing, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And some of these people are members of an organization called CIFAR, the Center for Applied Rationality, which is a nonprofit founded to help people get better at pursuing their goals. It's a self-help company, right? It runs self-help seminars. This is the same as like a Tony Robbins thing, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And some of these people are members of an organization called CIFAR, the Center for Applied Rationality, which is a nonprofit founded to help people get better at pursuing their goals. It's a self-help company, right? It runs self-help seminars. This is the same as like a Tony Robbins thing, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

We're all just trying to get you to sign up and then get you to sign up for the next workshop and the next workshop and the next workshop, like all self-help people do. Yeah, there's no difference between this and Tony Robbins.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

We're all just trying to get you to sign up and then get you to sign up for the next workshop and the next workshop and the next workshop, like all self-help people do. Yeah, there's no difference between this and Tony Robbins.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

We're all just trying to get you to sign up and then get you to sign up for the next workshop and the next workshop and the next workshop, like all self-help people do. Yeah, there's no difference between this and Tony Robbins.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

So Ziz goes to this event and she has a long conversation with several members of CIFAR who I think are clearly kind of... My interpretation of this is that they're trying to groom her to get a new... Because they think, yeah, this chick's clearly brilliant. She'll find her way in the industry and we want her money, right? Maybe we want her to do some free work for us too, but let's...

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

So Ziz goes to this event and she has a long conversation with several members of CIFAR who I think are clearly kind of... My interpretation of this is that they're trying to groom her to get a new... Because they think, yeah, this chick's clearly brilliant. She'll find her way in the industry and we want her money, right? Maybe we want her to do some free work for us too, but let's...

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

So Ziz goes to this event and she has a long conversation with several members of CIFAR who I think are clearly kind of... My interpretation of this is that they're trying to groom her to get a new... Because they think, yeah, this chick's clearly brilliant. She'll find her way in the industry and we want her money, right? Maybe we want her to do some free work for us too, but let's...

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

we got to reel this fish in, right? So this is described as an academic conference by people who are in the AI risk field and rationalism, thinking of ways to save the universe because only the true, the super geniuses can do that. The actual, why I'm really glad that I read Ziz's account here is I've been reading about these people for a long time. I've been reading about their beliefs.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

we got to reel this fish in, right? So this is described as an academic conference by people who are in the AI risk field and rationalism, thinking of ways to save the universe because only the true, the super geniuses can do that. The actual, why I'm really glad that I read Ziz's account here is I've been reading about these people for a long time. I've been reading about their beliefs.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

we got to reel this fish in, right? So this is described as an academic conference by people who are in the AI risk field and rationalism, thinking of ways to save the universe because only the true, the super geniuses can do that. The actual, why I'm really glad that I read Ziz's account here is I've been reading about these people for a long time. I've been reading about their beliefs.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I felt there's some cult stuff here When Ziz laid out what happened at this seminar, this self-help seminar put on by these people very close to Yudkowsky, It's almost exactly the same as a Synanon meeting. It's the same stuff. It's the same shit. It's the same as accounts of big self-help movement things from the 70s and stuff that I've read. That's when it really clicked to me, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I felt there's some cult stuff here When Ziz laid out what happened at this seminar, this self-help seminar put on by these people very close to Yudkowsky, It's almost exactly the same as a Synanon meeting. It's the same stuff. It's the same shit. It's the same as accounts of big self-help movement things from the 70s and stuff that I've read. That's when it really clicked to me, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I felt there's some cult stuff here When Ziz laid out what happened at this seminar, this self-help seminar put on by these people very close to Yudkowsky, It's almost exactly the same as a Synanon meeting. It's the same stuff. It's the same shit. It's the same as accounts of big self-help movement things from the 70s and stuff that I've read. That's when it really clicked to me, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Quote, here's a description of one of the... Because they have speeches and they break out into groups to do different exercises, right? There were hamming circles. Per person, take turns having everyone else spend 20 minutes trying to solve the most important problem about your life to you. I didn't pick the most important problem in my life because secrets.