David Braun

Exactly.

So that's why I started Webleum.

Also, you know, like I had a non-compete agreement.

So like I talked to the buyer because like it slightly competes with TemplateMonster.

But, you know, like, and then we've got a strategic agreement that we would use actually TemplateMonster as a lead generation channel.

And we do like a revenue share with private equity.

Yeah, it's actually a SaaS company, but it works as an agency.

You know, the problem was during Tablet Monster times, we created over 1.5 million websites for customers as an agency, basically.

And the biggest problem is, you know, like we use so many platforms like WordPress, Joomla, Magento, you name it.

And the problem was once you create a website and you sell it to the customer, after one or two years, a new version of WordPress comes in.

You have to patch it.

You have to update and do a lot of stuff.

And people...

At the end of the day, like after three years, you visit the perfect website that you delivered three years ago.

Nowadays, it looks abandoned.

You know, like it's homeless.

So I started to think about maybe we create a website builder.

But, you know, like Wix, Squarespace, Weebly, everyone is on the scene right now.

People do not want to do it in do-it-yourself mode.

Because the websites at the end are crap.