David Brooks

And so what Himmelfarb describes is a period of moral improvement for a whole society.

The whole society, we all live on the cultural capital of centuries gone by.

And if we tear away at that capital, then we're lost in the world Stephen Miller talked about last week, which is a war of all against all, where force is the only thing that matters.

A shared morality does not matter.

And so I think they give us the tools to think about how do we reconstruct a social order so we can trust one another once again and so we can treat each other decently once again.

Yeah, you're really cheering me up.

So glad I came on the podcast.

No, I'm kidding.

So you and I got out of school at about the same time and entered our business at the same time.

And at that time, I was working at National Review in the mid 80s, and another group of people came out of school at the same time.

And I came out of the University of Chicago, you came out of a fancier school back east, but there were a group of students from Dartmouth.

I think you meant easier school, but you're being polite.

Easier, yeah.

So they're a group from Dartmouth who worked at a magazine called The Dartmouth Review.

And people will know some of them still.

Laura Ingram, Dinesh D'Souza.

There was a guy named Ben Hart.

There was a guy named Greg Foss et al.

And I did not appreciate the distinction.

I thought we were all on the same team.