David Brown

And you are in the driver's seat in a sense for British TV, right?

This is your first season calling it for British TV.

Is that right?

And so did you find yourself taking a side?

This would be really hard to maintain a kind of neutrality, I would think.

There was a lot of buzz.

How did Max Verstappen come onto the scene in that 2021 F1 season?

Did he surprise everyone?

He was a prodigy.

So you have this generational component and then you turn over to the rival, right?

Verstappen's rival in that 2021 F1 season, the British driver Lewis Hamilton.

Many people consider Hamilton the goat, I suppose.

He and Verstappen, as you were describing, just fought wheel to wheel, collided on more than one occasion.

I think Verstappen's car actually ended up on top of

of Hamilton's car in one of those wipeouts.

So as those two went tire to tire in 2021, was the fight friendly?

How would you describe it?

Isn't this beneath F1 to be brawling like this?

Was there some feeling that, oh, this isn't civil or we're just people all in on this?

And what can you ask for more in sport than that?