David Cartlidge

Yeah, end on Southampton.

We can't end on Pond.

Would you agree with that, David?

To an extent, but I mean, what, if you look at the Premier League, let's say 90s, 2000s, what about, didn't Sam Allardyce get a lot of criticism for not changing up his style?

Wasn't he wedded to his style?

I think he was very much, he was very defensive of his style.

And when people said it's ugly, it's whatever, it's archaic, medieval, wherever it may be.

He was very defensive of that and said, look, I haven't got these players.

So this is how I play.

I'm sticking with this style.

And I think his Bolton side gradually got different types of players, more technical players, JJ Acoccia, for example.

But you still knew what you were getting from a big Sam side.

I'll take it another way with Harry Redknapp.

Wasn't Harry Redknapp often seen as very naive?

Or why doesn't he shut up shop a little bit more?

Why does he want to play this old gung-ho type brand of football?

So I would say they were wedded to their style in a way.

I was going to say, certain results kind of dictated to them.

Remember we said in the first early Champions League games of Man Utd qualified, you just said, we were just not up to it.

Even the smaller teams on the continent, you had IFK Gothenburgs and people like this, were more astute and aware.