David Cooper (host)

And there's this perverse incentive.

These outlets, maybe not The Guardian specifically, but these outlets want the engagement.

They want the clicks.

That's advertising money.

Right.

Comment sections online from everything you've learned.

Are they what they're supposed to be?

Are they this democratic forum for, you know, healthy debate or do they end up being kind of a cesspool?

Well, Ben, it has been a joy talking to you about your research.

Thanks for going over internet comments with me.

I appreciate your time.

Thanks very much.

Ben Clark is a communication studies professor at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden.

After the break, why are animal actors disappearing from Hollywood, replaced by CGI creatures and motion capture suits?

The surprising future of animals on film sets is coming up.

Hollywood, TV and movies.

They used to rely on scene stealing dogs, heroic horses, the occasional bear and definitely monkeys.

These animals were in and they acted with humans.

But in the age of CGI, are animal actors becoming extinct?

That is the question we're about to answer here with media and culture studies professor at the College of Staten Island, CUNY in New York, Cynthia Criss.