David Crespo

Yeah, so I think that's kind of right. And I think we had also reached kind of a software complexity. So when we were talking about this, my recollection is we were kind of going back on what was good about PSARC, what was bad about PSARC. And in particular, it was kind of like the 20 questions part of it.

Yeah, so I think that's kind of right. And I think we had also reached kind of a software complexity. So when we were talking about this, my recollection is we were kind of going back on what was good about PSARC, what was bad about PSARC. And in particular, it was kind of like the 20 questions part of it.

Not necessarily did you write every manual page down into a case that was there, but more of the what are we trying to do and why. we had kind of gotten to the point where both Triton and Manta had reached a level of complexity as well, where it's just like, how did these things intersect? What actually happens when you're building this?

Not necessarily did you write every manual page down into a case that was there, but more of the what are we trying to do and why. we had kind of gotten to the point where both Triton and Manta had reached a level of complexity as well, where it's just like, how did these things intersect? What actually happens when you're building this?

And to your point, the act of writing it down just forced you to think about it a little bit ahead of time. But yeah, I think that that's kind of where we were. And then I think we kind of used Alex as the first willing

And to your point, the act of writing it down just forced you to think about it a little bit ahead of time. But yeah, I think that that's kind of where we were. And then I think we kind of used Alex as the first willing

Yeah, I think it was both. I think we kind of both were looking for it and then looking for a way to kind of lead with a couple examples of what we were looking for because it was kind of a hard thing to – if you just like what is the actual shape of this kind of amorphous document? And so you want to have, you know, something that kind of describes like, what's the problem?

Yeah, I think it was both. I think we kind of both were looking for it and then looking for a way to kind of lead with a couple examples of what we were looking for because it was kind of a hard thing to – if you just like what is the actual shape of this kind of amorphous document? And so you want to have, you know, something that kind of describes like, what's the problem?

You know, what are we actually proposing? How does this intersect? You know, especially for kind of like a bunch of stuff for us was, you know, then, you know, what is actually going to be user visible? Like how does some of these APIs, what are some of these APIs, what are these sketches of them? So we understand how they fit together.

You know, what are we actually proposing? How does this intersect? You know, especially for kind of like a bunch of stuff for us was, you know, then, you know, what is actually going to be user visible? Like how does some of these APIs, what are some of these APIs, what are these sketches of them? So we understand how they fit together.

Yeah, that's my recollection, especially, like, in the era of, like – chat bots that will link to things. I think the bot already did RFCX to the actual IETF RFC, so that was going to be doubly confusing. I think it was that, and then also that way we could just distinguish it from the IETF. Yeah, that's mostly why we chose a different name. I don't think there's too much

Yeah, that's my recollection, especially, like, in the era of, like – chat bots that will link to things. I think the bot already did RFCX to the actual IETF RFC, so that was going to be doubly confusing. I think it was that, and then also that way we could just distinguish it from the IETF. Yeah, that's mostly why we chose a different name. I don't think there's too much

Yeah, I think the sentence you have, the parenthetical you have at the end of that joint RFD intro is probably about as accurate as it is.

Yeah, I think the sentence you have, the parenthetical you have at the end of that joint RFD intro is probably about as accurate as it is.

had come along the way like i don't remember if we had something as formal for manta i think i wrote up a bunch for the fabrics stuff in like 2013 2012 yeah and but they were just kind of like one-off documents that we would just kind of store and toss on you know the like local http server for folks to build to see and then i guess we eventually had manta we tossed it in there but

had come along the way like i don't remember if we had something as formal for manta i think i wrote up a bunch for the fabrics stuff in like 2013 2012 yeah and but they were just kind of like one-off documents that we would just kind of store and toss on you know the like local http server for folks to build to see and then i guess we eventually had manta we tossed it in there but

I think they've been sands of time.

I think they've been sands of time.

Very well. Thank you.

Very well. Thank you.