David Dawson

Yeah, I pushed them as hard as I could in Wales.

And I just don't know how they're going to look when they arrive here on Monday.

I would think four of them at least.

I would probably think four, don't touch them, and maybe two I might have to go, oh no, that needs to... It's unexplainable, but that's exciting.

That's the difference between painting and photography in some ways, that paintings have time in them and that creates space in a way in the painting.

And then, so I've spent, which is irrelevant in some ways, I've spent, say, two or three years working on a painting.

You walk in and you see it, you see all of it in seconds.

And then if you want to, you can spend a longer amount of time with it and think hopefully it opens up for you.

You don't get that in photography.

And that's what disappoints me.

I'm never really interested in the artists that use photography.

I mean, I'll use photographs occasionally because it's a help to memory jog me.

But I don't like all these young artists that just use their iPads.

And you can just see they've just... Because it's already a flat two-dimensional image they're working from.

It's not much progress to then just transfer that into paint.

Exactly.

sculptural form in a way and nature is 3d isn't it and in your paintings you have and that's and that's the extraordinary thing that paintings inherently are two-dimensional but the game and the joy is to try and make our concept of the three-dimensional world in a two-dimensional plane that's excitement so for me copying it from an ipad is irrelevant it's pointless just use the ipad

Because it's quite a...

Solitary life in a way.

It was a very solitary life.