David Dawson

I then applied to art schools and got into each one I applied to and then came into London.

By then I was 22, 23.

So I did my foundation year at Cardiff.

Oh, yes.

And then my dad was quite elderly, so he wanted me back on the farm.

So I felt the pressure.

So I had spent a couple of years back working with my dad.

Drawing and painting as the day went on.

But then I applied to do a degree and each college I applied to, they accepted me in each one, which is very, which is nice.

But I chose Chelsea.

I felt London was, being a capital, it attracts a bigger crowd of people.

So therefore I am, and the museums that are in London.

Exactly, exactly.

So I came into London to come straight into art school and then from Chelsea went straight to the Royal College where I met Tracy.

And they put us both together in the same studio.

That's why me and Tracy are good mates because we had those days.

What year was that?

1987 we both went to the Royal College.

So then my adult life has been in London.

I always felt this sort of rupture almost in my own personal inner life of this amazing time spent in the hills of Wales because we had to sell the farm for me to come to art school.