David Duvenaud

So I guess I'll say you can make a case either way.

And again, empirically, we seem to have this like mix and it's not even really an equilibrium.

It's this sort of like meta equilibrium of, you know, larger coordination happening and then dying.

I guess I'll say I think it's also probably going to operate very differently at different scales.

So on the scale of like an island versus like a continent versus a planet versus a solar system versus a galaxy, right?

Just due to like weird physics things like the speed of light, it probably will.

I can't imagine there being all that much meaningful coordination between galaxies ever and probably not even between solar systems.

So it really probably depends on the level.

And I guess I haven't thought much about this.

Yeah, post-AGI civilizational equilibria, colon, are there any good ones?

Yeah.

How did it go?

Are there any good ones?

I mean, I think it went really well.

I mean, we were all a bit amateurs.

Well, actually, Jan has organized lots of workshops, but we had like a lot of my favorite, impressive, fun people to talk to.

In terms of are there good futures or stable equilibrium that we would like, I feel like we had speakers that were able to lay out the main cases.

Like Joe Carl Smith, Richard Noe came and talked about life in living in an extremely unequal world and making the case that most of our sort of like intuitions and moral norms are...

formed in this sort of very peer-to-peer world that we've lived in as humans, but it's actually going to look more like parent-child relationships or animal-human relationships.

And we have to adapt our sort of moral and social intuitions more for this kind of world.