David Duvenaud

We will also handle the fine-tuning to give you this personalized assistant that...

basically is sort of a digital clone of you or like a clone or like an assistant that knows all of your context so it can help you.

And the idea is like it's in contrast maybe to like mechanized labs who are saying, let's build this global thing where we just learn all the skills and then the return on sort of capital is much more concentrated.

The hope, the like value pitch for like the public good is that if people follow the workshop labs model, there's a bunch of people who each sort of control their own means of production to a greater extent.

Yeah, well, not quite, because I also think that if you end up being replaced by your own clone, you're at least getting to control it and you own the sort of IP.

Yes, exactly.

But the idea is you would just pay them the cost of hosting, and then you would actually get the wages that your digital clone is earning or whatever it's doing.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I think that's a great question.

And I do think that sort of in the long-term, right, like you just want to have the centralized AI that's really smart and knows everything.

And the idea is just that, but there is this very distributed economic value we all have in like our current, like little bits of knowledge about our own businesses or our own personal relationships or whatever.

And at least we can capture that value for a bit longer than if we, the question was just, do you outsource to like ChatGPT or not?

Yeah, and maybe the base model thing is a bit of a distraction because you could imagine...

we get to fine-tune much more powerful base models.

And then the point is that just having had all your data being uploaded affords this.

But I agree that in the long term, the value of that data kind of goes to zero.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, yeah, it's not clear.

It's not clear.

And I mean, the thing is, the fear, of course, is that they end up speeding up gradual disempowerment.