David E. Sanger

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The Daily · Why the Cease-Fire With Iran Keeps Crumbling · 14 Jul 2026 podcast

The president quite deliberately put this in the hands of his vice president, J.D.

Vance, his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, his chief envoy, Steve Witkoff.

They've negotiated deals, particularly Mr. Kushner and Mr. Wyckoff in the past, real estate deals largely, but they weren't involved in the Obama era negotiations that the Trump administration has so denounced.

If they had checked with a couple of those diplomats, I think they probably would have been warned that this wording left huge loopholes.

Look, I think if you came to this completely as a blank slate and you read the words that were in front of you, you would immediately think the entire straight was open.

But...

The Iranians are known for reinterpreting this kind of thing.

They do it with nuclear inspections and where the inspectors can go.

We've seen them do this in a range of other areas.

So it really was no surprise when you saw wording like best efforts and no definition of what it meant to open the Strait that there was probably going to be trouble here.

Let me put it this way.

When the document was first published in mid-June, I ran the wording by people who have negotiated nuclear accords and other accords with Iran in the past.

And it was the first thing they flagged to me as potential trouble.

Oh, yeah, they were 100 percent right.

But, you know, what really strikes me, Rachel, in this is thinking about the way the Trump administration was discussing this agreement with Iran just three weeks ago.

At the time, J.D.

Vance, on his way to Switzerland to sign this agreement, said something pretty interesting.

We're

So the essence of J.D.

Vance's argument was that in these negotiations, they had not only won out in the wording, they had actually converted the Iranian leadership over to believing that we're in new territory here and we're going to put all of the disputes of the past aside and strike a deal that will be profitable for Iran and will, of course, bring down prices for Americans.

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