David E. Sanger

Wow.

Wow.

And, of course, it's Vance who is widely reported to have been the least enthusiastic about getting into a conflict with Iran to begin with.

Right.

I think it's all of the above, Michael.

The Iranians view him as probably the one they'd most like to talk to because they think he opposed this idea from the start.

I think to President Trump, it's an opportunity to show to the Iranians that he's serious about these talks.

And I think the third message that it sends is actually to the MAGA base.

It's don't worry.

This is under control.

J.D.

Vance, who was the most outspoken in favor of staying out of foreign wars, is the one we've put in charge of ending this one.

With every passing week of this war, the differing objectives of the U.S.

and Israel have become more and more evident to us.

President Trump is obviously quite concerned about the effects on the stock market, the effects of oil and gas not making it through the Strait of Hormuz,

the backlash that he's getting from the Europeans, from Asian allies.

Israel really isn't concerned about almost any of those.

Right.

To them, the one question here is, at the end of this process, is Iran so defanged that it couldn't even think of striking beyond its borders again?

Right.