David Eagleman

Exactly right. I find this really interesting. Look, here's the thing. If we do upload ourselves at some point in the distant future, let's say a thousand years from now, there's a couple of things that we have to really watch for. One is, who are the programmers? Who watches the Watchmen? Like, you are completely at the mercy of whoever is running the simulation.

Yeah, they're God, essentially. They're God. Exactly right. It's scary because, in fact, it's just some 21-year-old guy with a goatee. Who's like playing Warcraft at the same time on another screen. Exactly. So that's a really weird thing. There's presumably going to be whole bodies of legislation around this and what the rules are around this.

Yeah, they're God, essentially. They're God. Exactly right. It's scary because, in fact, it's just some 21-year-old guy with a goatee. Who's like playing Warcraft at the same time on another screen. Exactly. So that's a really weird thing. There's presumably going to be whole bodies of legislation around this and what the rules are around this.

Yeah, they're God, essentially. They're God. Exactly right. It's scary because, in fact, it's just some 21-year-old guy with a goatee. Who's like playing Warcraft at the same time on another screen. Exactly. So that's a really weird thing. There's presumably going to be whole bodies of legislation around this and what the rules are around this.

But yes, one of the things I mentioned is that let's imagine we realized, oh God, the universe is collapsing and the universe is only going to last five more minutes. The programmer couldn't speed it up so that you live a thousand years in those last five minutes and you didn't know it.

But yes, one of the things I mentioned is that let's imagine we realized, oh God, the universe is collapsing and the universe is only going to last five more minutes. The programmer couldn't speed it up so that you live a thousand years in those last five minutes and you didn't know it.

But yes, one of the things I mentioned is that let's imagine we realized, oh God, the universe is collapsing and the universe is only going to last five more minutes. The programmer couldn't speed it up so that you live a thousand years in those last five minutes and you didn't know it.

It might work. You certainly could freeze a body that long. We have not perfected cryogenics yet, but in theory, it's not so hard. And we know that it works in the sense that sometimes people will fall through the ice on a lake and they will try to get out and they can't get out and they drown and they die.

It might work. You certainly could freeze a body that long. We have not perfected cryogenics yet, but in theory, it's not so hard. And we know that it works in the sense that sometimes people will fall through the ice on a lake and they will try to get out and they can't get out and they drown and they die.

It might work. You certainly could freeze a body that long. We have not perfected cryogenics yet, but in theory, it's not so hard. And we know that it works in the sense that sometimes people will fall through the ice on a lake and they will try to get out and they can't get out and they drown and they die.

And then their body is rescued and they're brought to the hospital and there's this whole thing where you extract the blood and warm the blood in a machine and you're passing it back in. And people end up freezing.

And then their body is rescued and they're brought to the hospital and there's this whole thing where you extract the blood and warm the blood in a machine and you're passing it back in. And people end up freezing.

And then their body is rescued and they're brought to the hospital and there's this whole thing where you extract the blood and warm the blood in a machine and you're passing it back in. And people end up freezing.

fine like they actually come back to life really from being frozen i've never heard of that happening that's incredible here's one to link in the show notes i'll send you a lancet article is a medical journal about a woman who was a young doctor who this happened to on a skiing trip and yeah she's probably fine she's practicing medicine now and so on but she was dead she was actually dead and frozen and she was brought back this happens not infrequently in theory she's a few minutes younger than her actual age it's not bad

fine like they actually come back to life really from being frozen i've never heard of that happening that's incredible here's one to link in the show notes i'll send you a lancet article is a medical journal about a woman who was a young doctor who this happened to on a skiing trip and yeah she's probably fine she's practicing medicine now and so on but she was dead she was actually dead and frozen and she was brought back this happens not infrequently in theory she's a few minutes younger than her actual age it's not bad

fine like they actually come back to life really from being frozen i've never heard of that happening that's incredible here's one to link in the show notes i'll send you a lancet article is a medical journal about a woman who was a young doctor who this happened to on a skiing trip and yeah she's probably fine she's practicing medicine now and so on but she was dead she was actually dead and frozen and she was brought back this happens not infrequently in theory she's a few minutes younger than her actual age it's not bad

Not bad. So everything about cryogenics should work in theory. The problem is simply that how do you freeze things fast enough so that you don't get ice crystals and you get ice crystals that tears the cell membranes and blah, blah. So there's some stuff to be worked out there. But yeah, I think freezing people and sending them on space travel is certainly a possibility.

Not bad. So everything about cryogenics should work in theory. The problem is simply that how do you freeze things fast enough so that you don't get ice crystals and you get ice crystals that tears the cell membranes and blah, blah. So there's some stuff to be worked out there. But yeah, I think freezing people and sending them on space travel is certainly a possibility.

Not bad. So everything about cryogenics should work in theory. The problem is simply that how do you freeze things fast enough so that you don't get ice crystals and you get ice crystals that tears the cell membranes and blah, blah. So there's some stuff to be worked out there. But yeah, I think freezing people and sending them on space travel is certainly a possibility.

What's interesting about that theory is that Descartes was at least one of the first people to talk about this thing. How do I know I'm not brain in a vat being stimulated by scientists so that I think I'm sitting in this sunny living room talking with Jordan and so on? And people have worked on better and better versions of this.