David Fagenbaum

I think another piece of this is when you say goodbye to people you love and you start to wake up and you're like, oh, my gosh,

I got another day.

This is incredible.

It gives a glow to life that's hard for me to overemphasize.

At the same time, we also have patients that we're not able to help and patients where we try everything for them and they still die from their disease.

diseases that we're working on so hard, and we want treatment so bad, and we just can't find them.

And so I think that when you bring all those together, it's the excitement of life and the fact that we're all here, and it's just amazing, the excitement of being able to help people that shouldn't be here, that are living what we call overtime, but it's also sitting with the pain of the patients we're not able to help, sitting with the pain of the diseases that we're not able to treat yet, and having that pain drive further action.

Sure.

So I completely agree with Kia's points.

And one way that I've sort of framed this in a way that's been really helpful for me is that I've considered the moment that I nearly died for the first time to be the start of my overtime.

And overtime is a sense that many of us can relate to.

So think about at the end of a sporting event where your game goes into overtime, and if you're playing in one of those games, it can be really scary to be in overtime, because at any minute, the game could end.

If you make a mistake in overtime,

is over, make a mistake in the first half of the game, you can make up for it.

So overtime can be really scary.

But overtime can also be really clarifying.

When you're in overtime, you focus only on the things that are most important to win whatever that sporting event is.

And so I found for me that I've been in the state of overtime now for 15 years.

I guess I'm in my fifth overtime by now.

But in this overtime, it helps me to sort of cut out the noise, the things that I don't care about, the things that aren't important to me, and to just focus on the things that are really, really important to me.