David Farrier

And so to see a different model of masculinity or a different model of what an adult could be just...

Really, really memorable.

In the US, sports are seen as a panacea for kids because that builds teamwork.

Bullshit.

It's collective creativity and the role playing itself.

To be someone other than yourself, it's an engine for empathy.

You're watching someone else step outside themselves.

Does it trip you out sometimes that you guys are still friends after all this time?

Like it's quite a long friendship as well.

It's kind of amazing.

Phil chips in from across the room.

I really want to talk about the fact that all genders are welcome, which is very rare in America or elsewhere.

But the generations.

When I joined what we call the grown-up game, the adult game when I was 18, you had our mutual friend Bruno, who is 20 years older than me.

So at the moment, I'm 48.

Bruno's approximately 68.

And Maria Conti, our friend who passed, 25 years older than Bruno.

So literally three distinct generations.

Now maybe add my daughter, you've got four.

Today's a pretty surreal day for Phil, I guess.