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So let's go back to August of 2021 and the chaos that ensued when the U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan and the Taliban extended its control to the country. Security contractor named Zachary Young offered services for a fee to get people out, many thousands of dollars apiece. CNN reported that Afghans who were trying to get relatives out felt they were being price gouged.
So let's go back to August of 2021 and the chaos that ensued when the U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan and the Taliban extended its control to the country. Security contractor named Zachary Young offered services for a fee to get people out, many thousands of dollars apiece. CNN reported that Afghans who were trying to get relatives out felt they were being price gouged.
So let's go back to August of 2021 and the chaos that ensued when the U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan and the Taliban extended its control to the country. Security contractor named Zachary Young offered services for a fee to get people out, many thousands of dollars apiece. CNN reported that Afghans who were trying to get relatives out felt they were being price gouged.
They used the words exorbitant prices, the term black market. Young's attorneys say, look, The character of our client was maligned. He was not doing this for individuals who are desperate simply, but for deeper pocket organizations like corporations, non-government organizations from the U.S. and Europe, and that he lost millions of dollars as a result of this story. All right.
They used the words exorbitant prices, the term black market. Young's attorneys say, look, The character of our client was maligned. He was not doing this for individuals who are desperate simply, but for deeper pocket organizations like corporations, non-government organizations from the U.S. and Europe, and that he lost millions of dollars as a result of this story. All right.
They used the words exorbitant prices, the term black market. Young's attorneys say, look, The character of our client was maligned. He was not doing this for individuals who are desperate simply, but for deeper pocket organizations like corporations, non-government organizations from the U.S. and Europe, and that he lost millions of dollars as a result of this story. All right.
So what does CNN say? So the network says a couple of things here. It apologized some months later. The story originally appeared on The Lead with Jake Tapper. A substitute host, Pamela Brown, apologized on the air saying the network shouldn't have applied the label black market, didn't mean to apply that to Mr. Young and it shouldn't have been in the story. And then it said,
So what does CNN say? So the network says a couple of things here. It apologized some months later. The story originally appeared on The Lead with Jake Tapper. A substitute host, Pamela Brown, apologized on the air saying the network shouldn't have applied the label black market, didn't mean to apply that to Mr. Young and it shouldn't have been in the story. And then it said,
So what does CNN say? So the network says a couple of things here. It apologized some months later. The story originally appeared on The Lead with Jake Tapper. A substitute host, Pamela Brown, apologized on the air saying the network shouldn't have applied the label black market, didn't mean to apply that to Mr. Young and it shouldn't have been in the story. And then it said,
We're just reflecting the concerns of the Afghans we spoke to here. But its lawyers also have taken a more aggressive tone in legal documents filed and motions for this case. They said, look, we learned that Young lied to our reporters during the reporting of stories, and we were unable to confirm that he evacuated anybody as he claimed. How strong is this case against CNN?
We're just reflecting the concerns of the Afghans we spoke to here. But its lawyers also have taken a more aggressive tone in legal documents filed and motions for this case. They said, look, we learned that Young lied to our reporters during the reporting of stories, and we were unable to confirm that he evacuated anybody as he claimed. How strong is this case against CNN?
We're just reflecting the concerns of the Afghans we spoke to here. But its lawyers also have taken a more aggressive tone in legal documents filed and motions for this case. They said, look, we learned that Young lied to our reporters during the reporting of stories, and we were unable to confirm that he evacuated anybody as he claimed. How strong is this case against CNN?
Well, it's really interesting to go through and look at the documents. And let's remember that any kinds of exchanges from Slack or emails or text or whatever in any kind of case like this are going to be necessarily a narrow window into it.
Well, it's really interesting to go through and look at the documents. And let's remember that any kinds of exchanges from Slack or emails or text or whatever in any kind of case like this are going to be necessarily a narrow window into it.
Well, it's really interesting to go through and look at the documents. And let's remember that any kinds of exchanges from Slack or emails or text or whatever in any kind of case like this are going to be necessarily a narrow window into it.
It may not reflect the full context, but you're seeing editors right as the story is going to air and is about to, a fuller version of the story is about to be published online. These editors internally at CNN are expressing real misgivings. They say, we don't have the goods here.
It may not reflect the full context, but you're seeing editors right as the story is going to air and is about to, a fuller version of the story is about to be published online. These editors internally at CNN are expressing real misgivings. They say, we don't have the goods here.
It may not reflect the full context, but you're seeing editors right as the story is going to air and is about to, a fuller version of the story is about to be published online. These editors internally at CNN are expressing real misgivings. They say, we don't have the goods here.
In one exchange, like, look, let's just hope that we just keep with the video version of the story and not do anything with the written story. It's about 80 percent emotion and maybe 20 percent facts. We don't have it there. I spoke to two prominent First Amendment lawyers, one an expert on it at the University of Florida, where the case is being held.