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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If you're having to throttle down a little bit for that, I have no problem with that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If you're having to throttle down a little bit for that, I have no problem with that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If you're having to throttle down a little bit for that, I have no problem with that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

In fact, in an ideal situation when there's insane heat and something that we've gotten earlier, like that's a great moment to take secondary if you can. Sometimes you can't. But if I speak to teams about this all day long, so like. You've got a billion dollar valuation and you're doing 50 million or 40 million revenue. Forget like you're losing money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

In fact, in an ideal situation when there's insane heat and something that we've gotten earlier, like that's a great moment to take secondary if you can. Sometimes you can't. But if I speak to teams about this all day long, so like. You've got a billion dollar valuation and you're doing 50 million or 40 million revenue. Forget like you're losing money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

In fact, in an ideal situation when there's insane heat and something that we've gotten earlier, like that's a great moment to take secondary if you can. Sometimes you can't. But if I speak to teams about this all day long, so like. You've got a billion dollar valuation and you're doing 50 million or 40 million revenue. Forget like you're losing money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

This is an awesome time for you to take some money off the table. And in certain situations, we've had the founders say to us, look, there's a little leftover because there's such heat here. There's 20 million to go between, do you want to take some money off? And we have been able to take a third of, but do we get that right all the time?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

This is an awesome time for you to take some money off the table. And in certain situations, we've had the founders say to us, look, there's a little leftover because there's such heat here. There's 20 million to go between, do you want to take some money off? And we have been able to take a third of, but do we get that right all the time?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

This is an awesome time for you to take some money off the table. And in certain situations, we've had the founders say to us, look, there's a little leftover because there's such heat here. There's 20 million to go between, do you want to take some money off? And we have been able to take a third of, but do we get that right all the time?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, the answer was, you only know that in the rear view mirror. I won't mention the name of the company. We did take a third off the table. We were right over there, but we've got it wrong as well. We took secondary in some of our biggest names. We shouldn't have sold a share.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, the answer was, you only know that in the rear view mirror. I won't mention the name of the company. We did take a third off the table. We were right over there, but we've got it wrong as well. We took secondary in some of our biggest names. We shouldn't have sold a share.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, the answer was, you only know that in the rear view mirror. I won't mention the name of the company. We did take a third off the table. We were right over there, but we've got it wrong as well. We took secondary in some of our biggest names. We shouldn't have sold a share.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, Trade Desk, I regret every single share I sold. Uber, I regret every single share I sold. Hindsight is just the most precise science. These are great moat companies. Why would you bet against those?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, Trade Desk, I regret every single share I sold. Uber, I regret every single share I sold. Hindsight is just the most precise science. These are great moat companies. Why would you bet against those?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Well, Trade Desk, I regret every single share I sold. Uber, I regret every single share I sold. Hindsight is just the most precise science. These are great moat companies. Why would you bet against those?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

My rule of thumb is there's a hot big deal going down. Again, this feels anachronistic because this was happening on steroids three, four years ago. I'm seeing less of it. But if you take less, 10% or less off the table, nobody's going to really mind too much.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

My rule of thumb is there's a hot big deal going down. Again, this feels anachronistic because this was happening on steroids three, four years ago. I'm seeing less of it. But if you take less, 10% or less off the table, nobody's going to really mind too much.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

My rule of thumb is there's a hot big deal going down. Again, this feels anachronistic because this was happening on steroids three, four years ago. I'm seeing less of it. But if you take less, 10% or less off the table, nobody's going to really mind too much.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If things go south later on, then LPs look at it and investors look at it and go like, I wish Harry didn't take $5 or $10 million off the table. But I don't mind if Harry took a million or two million. By the way, I always say the first million dollars, like when the first million dollars makes, it's binary, it makes all the difference. It's partially selfish.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If things go south later on, then LPs look at it and investors look at it and go like, I wish Harry didn't take $5 or $10 million off the table. But I don't mind if Harry took a million or two million. By the way, I always say the first million dollars, like when the first million dollars makes, it's binary, it makes all the difference. It's partially selfish.