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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

This is testimonial sales. I'm saying Harry is awesome. Harry is awesome. Like it's not Harry going, oh, I'm awesome, right? It's me saying Harry's awesome. And by the way, I have to believe that for that to be really authentic.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So that's why like our testimonial sales with our better companies, with our companies that are performing are better than, you know, when we're trying to kind of sell a company that's not performing. So it comes down to performance.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So that's why like our testimonial sales with our better companies, with our companies that are performing are better than, you know, when we're trying to kind of sell a company that's not performing. So it comes down to performance.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So that's why like our testimonial sales with our better companies, with our companies that are performing are better than, you know, when we're trying to kind of sell a company that's not performing. So it comes down to performance.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It depends on the context again. It depends on how hot the deal is. I think you're describing a hot deal in a tougher time, like halitosis is better than no breath at all. So, you know, like if you're doing your buddy a favor and that person's putting $5 million into my deal and I have struggled to fundraise, like bring it on.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It depends on the context again. It depends on how hot the deal is. I think you're describing a hot deal in a tougher time, like halitosis is better than no breath at all. So, you know, like if you're doing your buddy a favor and that person's putting $5 million into my deal and I have struggled to fundraise, like bring it on.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It depends on the context again. It depends on how hot the deal is. I think you're describing a hot deal in a tougher time, like halitosis is better than no breath at all. So, you know, like if you're doing your buddy a favor and that person's putting $5 million into my deal and I have struggled to fundraise, like bring it on.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I've never heard that statement before. Do you do market sizing? We do. I've seen a bunch of times where funders will look at TAM and they'll walk away from a deal and they'll say because the TAM wasn't big enough. One of my favorite examples of this is MediaRadar. I was in it with Bain Capital, pre-founder collective.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I've never heard that statement before. Do you do market sizing? We do. I've seen a bunch of times where funders will look at TAM and they'll walk away from a deal and they'll say because the TAM wasn't big enough. One of my favorite examples of this is MediaRadar. I was in it with Bain Capital, pre-founder collective.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I've never heard that statement before. Do you do market sizing? We do. I've seen a bunch of times where funders will look at TAM and they'll walk away from a deal and they'll say because the TAM wasn't big enough. One of my favorite examples of this is MediaRadar. I was in it with Bain Capital, pre-founder collective.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It's one of the biggest vertical SaaS plays, if not the biggest in the world in media now. How much is it worth? It's worth billions today. It's another company I wish I'd stayed in. Todd Kreiselman. Unbelievable business. So we showed it to, I don't know, Bain, Flybridge, Bessemer. I remember this like it was yesterday. The Bessemer team did all the market sizing.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It's one of the biggest vertical SaaS plays, if not the biggest in the world in media now. How much is it worth? It's worth billions today. It's another company I wish I'd stayed in. Todd Kreiselman. Unbelievable business. So we showed it to, I don't know, Bain, Flybridge, Bessemer. I remember this like it was yesterday. The Bessemer team did all the market sizing.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It's one of the biggest vertical SaaS plays, if not the biggest in the world in media now. How much is it worth? It's worth billions today. It's another company I wish I'd stayed in. Todd Kreiselman. Unbelievable business. So we showed it to, I don't know, Bain, Flybridge, Bessemer. I remember this like it was yesterday. The Bessemer team did all the market sizing.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

They went newspapers and magazines. That's dying, right? The damn shit. Couldn't really argue with them. Like just kept going. I'd looked at newspapers and magazines as the angel investor and gone, you know, so that's a couple of hundred million dollars, not billions of dollars. Okay, next thing media radar goes into Facebook, Google, everything online needs them.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

They went newspapers and magazines. That's dying, right? The damn shit. Couldn't really argue with them. Like just kept going. I'd looked at newspapers and magazines as the angel investor and gone, you know, so that's a couple of hundred million dollars, not billions of dollars. Okay, next thing media radar goes into Facebook, Google, everything online needs them.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

They went newspapers and magazines. That's dying, right? The damn shit. Couldn't really argue with them. Like just kept going. I'd looked at newspapers and magazines as the angel investor and gone, you know, so that's a couple of hundred million dollars, not billions of dollars. Okay, next thing media radar goes into Facebook, Google, everything online needs them.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Next thing they're going to Netflix, Apple, Amazon, everything that is being screened needs them. And the TAM just was like infinite. So I've seen the mistake made where you really undersize the TAM. It sounds very seductive and logical in the moment. But like, do I think of TAM? TAM matters.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Next thing they're going to Netflix, Apple, Amazon, everything that is being screened needs them. And the TAM just was like infinite. So I've seen the mistake made where you really undersize the TAM. It sounds very seductive and logical in the moment. But like, do I think of TAM? TAM matters.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Next thing they're going to Netflix, Apple, Amazon, everything that is being screened needs them. And the TAM just was like infinite. So I've seen the mistake made where you really undersize the TAM. It sounds very seductive and logical in the moment. But like, do I think of TAM? TAM matters.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think all things being equal in the rear view mirror, you look at like the Tradesk versus Olo and you go, the Tradesk is like, it's this infinite TAM, right? You could literally be Google, Facebook and Tradesk. And then you look at Olo and you go, okay, vertical SaaS restaurants, is that TAM limited? Probably all things being equal, but there you go.