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David Friedberg

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8269 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Up until I floated IPO A in 2018, I think it was, the first way was really the only way.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I was involved in two direct listings, Slack and Coinbase.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And in both of those, what I learned is that it has the same vagaries as the traditional IPO.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

So in the traditional IPO, you go to a bank, they underwrite you, they act as a gatekeeper, and they take six, seven, 8% fees as a result.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And then they allocate what is essentially underpriced stock to their best customers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Then you see a one day pop, maybe a two or three day pop.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

All of those customers tend to unload and then the stock tends to drift down.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

So the IPO is expensive and it typically is mispriced.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

The direct listing, you have a different dynamic, which is the first trade is always the highest trade.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And then it just goes straight down.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

That happened with Slack and it happened with Coinbase.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Spotify would be in that group as well.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Yeah, with Slack, I remember like I was like offside a billion dollars and I was like, well, I'm never letting this happen again.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And so when I had the Coinbase thing, I sold it the first day and I texted Brian.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I said, this is not a directional indication of your company.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

It's the dynamics of the direct listing because I learned it the hard way that the time to sell is on day one.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

So where does the SPAC come in?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

You know, especially now in version two, version two being the thing that I have been tinkering and refining with and I'm trying to push in this new version.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I think that it's creating an incredibly competitive vehicle where you can have a ton of money, go into these private companies, take them public at a very, very low cost of capital.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And I think that that should be very enticing.