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David Friedberg

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Could I walk through a wall?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then the probability of all of my atoms being in the perfect moment, perfect position, you know, to be able to kind of cross through the wall is so low, it would never happen in this or many other universes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

So there's a small probability one electron can cross over a barrier.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

But the probability that many cross over at once is lower and lower and lower, and that makes it very difficult to see at scale.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

So one of the parts of your experiment, you created what's called a Josephson junction.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Is that correct?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

That's correct.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

So this is two superconductors with a barrier between them, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

I got really fascinated by superconductors when I was maybe 12 years old.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

I went and bought a superconducting disk, yttrium barium copper oxide.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

From the back of popular science.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then I went to UCLA and I got a jug of liquid nitrogen.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then I floated a magnet above the disk because of the Meissner effect.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And I had it at the science fair and I did very well with the science fair that year because I showed this really cool.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

That must have been 91, 92.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Yeah, the hard part is getting the liquid nitrogen, but... Yeah, and I had a friend whose dad was like a doctor at UCLA or something like that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

So he was able to get the liquid nitrogen for our demonstration.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

I've always been fascinated by the physics of superconductors.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And maybe you can just explain one of these important features of superconductors as it relates to kind of resistance and current flow.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then we can talk about your experiment.