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David Friedberg

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9253 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I think that the future, maybe just prognosticating and guessing, what does Raptor 3 look like in this back?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I think the Raptor 3 will look like where somebody, a sponsor like me, rolls everything up into one thing so that it's already pre-wired from the beginning, where I'll just speak to

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

a billion, two billion, three billion, whatever it is, flexible capital that can come in as common so that it's a totally pre-baked IPO at a very fair price.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I think that that's what the Raptor 3 version of a SPAC will look like.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Meaning then there's no conversion risk, that all the money comes over right from day one.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

It comes over, right.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Yeah, nothing can be earned unless the stock is up 50%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And then there's a tranche at 50.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Then when the stock is up 75%, there's another tranche.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And when the stock is up 100%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Nothing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

By the way, the reason why this is important is all of those things that you guys mentioned increases the cost of capital to the founder and to the private company board and to the employees.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

All that's unnecessary dilution.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

So now we take it all off the table.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I think it's the latter.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

But I think it's also important to note that this time around, I've tried to really minimize retail exposure to this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I don't think that retail is well-suited right now to have these things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And my honest advice is avoid

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

maybe not all SPACs, but definitely my SPAC, just avoid it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

I think that there is more than enough liquidity on the institutional side for us to do an interesting deal, but it fits in our portfolio and our construction, which is a very different risk model.