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David Friedberg

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9253 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

So a different company that I helped get off the ground, Grok with the Q,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

They have a cloud, and what they've been doing is they've been working with initially Lama, then they work with OpenAI to bring their open source model, but they also brought online a couple of these Chinese models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And what they do, exactly as you said, Sax, is they take the source code, they basically implement that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

They fork it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

They fork it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And now it's implemented domestically,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

on American soil, by Americans, inside of an American data center.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

So there's, China gave us kind of the way, the roadmap, if you will, the architectural plans, but we, as in, you know, the American company, in this case, Grok, built the house and then launched it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

And so now we as 8090 basically made a cost decision to move to this open source model because it was just materially cheaper.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

They're like Amazon for us.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

For me, as a consumer, it reduces us to a pure economic decision.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Where is it cheaper?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

It's not dissimilar to the last generation of the internet.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

You'd run on AWS, but then you'd bid it against GCP.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

You'd bring in Azure.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

You'd say, who is cheaper?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

Because ultimately...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

You're running a database.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

You're running, I don't know, pick your service, Snowflake.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Biggest LBO Ever, SPAC 2.0, Open Source AI Models, State AI Regulation Frenzy

It didn't really matter where it was.