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David George

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And that's been great because we've converted those in a really attractive way.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

If you look at the last year of our activity, our portfolio dollar weighted is growing 112% and we entered at 21 times revenue.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

So I'll have this debate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

First of all, I recognize that revenue multiples are flawed and all that, especially for traditional investors.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

But what I tell our investors is if I could invest for the rest of my career in 112% growing companies that are really, really great and good in markets at 21 times revenue, I would do it in a heartbeat.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

I would do it in a heartbeat.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And oh, by the way, we used to have this debate at GA.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

I think that's way less risky than something where you're buying a 12% grower in PE for 15 times EBITDA.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

In a weird way, it's less risky because growth just takes care of so much for you and de-risks so much for you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

I think above 30% growth, the market still doesn't fully value the growth rate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

Why is that the case?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

I think it's just hard to model.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

My conclusion, I've studied all these companies that are, I call them the model busters, but I've studied all these companies and it is just so hard for any investor to build a five or 10 year model where high growth persists.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

It's just not natural.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

No one built a financial model for Google or Visa that had them growing 20 years into existence at 15 or 20%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

It would just be totally unnatural to do so.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

If you look at the moment of the iPhone, and this goes back to the point about product cycles and how much you can get surprised.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

In 2009, if you looked at consensus estimates for Apple,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

and then compared for 2013.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

So 2009 consensus estimate for the year 2013, and compared it to actual performance in 2013, consensus estimates were off by 3x.